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How can this be the worst episode since Caged Heat that makes me want to put it into the same box that says "episodes that don't exist" but at the same time have two or three of the best and most important scenes in the last three years?

Let's talk about those scenes and ignore the rest, shall we?

"I caused a lot of suffering on Earth, but I devastated Heaven. I vaporized thousands of my own kind and I can't go back. [...] Because if I see what Heaven's become, what I made of it, I'm afraid I might kill myself."

This... this is everything I wanted addressed ever since 7x01 (well, almost everything. What about Balthazar?) and at the same time dreaded because I was always convinced that hurting his own family like this had to be the very, very worst thing for Castiel out of everything. I just somehow didn't really expect the show to so fully agree with me on this because it never seemed to care enough about the angels to go there, but now it did and it's the best and worst thing ever.
I'm so grateful they're making this a topic, making this the most important topic for Castiel really, and I just regained a big chunk of trust in this show thanks to this one scene.
So we'll actually watch Castiel go through this, 100% canon and on screen... this season is going to be even more painful than I expected.
Castiel needs to talk to (and listen to) Samandriel as quickly as possible so he learns that his family still cares about him, and that many of them forgive him and miss him. Maybe that will help him forgive himself.

And hey, at least he already was at the point where he wanted to face his pain at the end of the episode, before Naomi interrupted.

Naomi... I don't know. She probably wants Cas to stay out of Heaven because she knows that he can and will reveal and stop her plans - whatever they are - if she lets him in. But maybe, just maybe, she is actually trying to help him in her own way. I don't think I'll ever approve of her way but... intention does count, and when she told him that he should do what he wants to do, that sounded genuienly nice. Who are you, and what are you up to, Naomi?

Either way, I'm so proud of Castiel for not running anymore. After this episode I am convinced that now he will be able heal given time and support (Samandriel?) because he has finally admitted that he is far from okay.

Side note: During the episode I was so sure that this would be the day where we learn that Amelia was never real. All those cuts from "living in your own head/a dream world" to Sam's flash backs, who seemed even more weirdly soft coloured than before. But now with Don alive, maybe she was? Or maybe not? I'm not sure anymore.

Date: 2012-11-30 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwaevalarin.livejournal.com
Oh, I agree that this could have, SHOULD have been a good episode for Castiel, if they hadn't been so busy pointlessly using him as a comic relief about 80% of his on-screen time.

But I don't want to think about that. I'm tired of it, and for the other 20% I pretty much agree with you.

As to Naomi, it's funny this is, sort of turning you against her (well, sort of),

Huh? Not sort of, not at all. I hated her addition to the show in her first episode, after this one I'm actually intrigued, and interested, and optimistic that there might be some real, relatable motivation behind her actions, possibly even well-meant. How is that turning me against her?

Date: 2012-11-30 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlehollyleaf.livejournal.com
Apologies. Mis-read what you were saying about Naomi. When I looked through it sounded like you were unhappy with her. Looking back it's just that you disagree with her methods, which we're on the same page about. That's what happens when I try to discuss things during my breaks at work - NOT a great multi-tasker!

Awesome, then :)

As to your 80%, I don't think Cas was comic relief in those myself. I think all his 'funny' moments were actually kind of... angsty and painful. They were like him trying to lie in Swan Song? A way of him hiding/running. So I think it worked quite nicely. It was a good balance of 'comic' and angst for me, because all the comedy has that intentional undercurrent of Cas struggling with his issues.

But then, I've never hated Cas being involved in comedy moments. I think he has great comic potential. The show has just had trouble balancing that with the rest of his character early on. It got it right for me in this one, although I thought the moment at the start denying him a front seat was unnecessarily pushy. That was a comedy moment that failed for me. But then it wasn't Cas himself being comedic, so...

Can we just have Samandriel back now pls?

Date: 2012-11-30 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwaevalarin.livejournal.com
Cas DOES have a lot of comedic potential, and I don't generally mind Castiel involved in comedic moments. There are a lot of great comedic moments in the last few seasons that make perfect sense for his character. But there is a fine line between painting a character as awkward and making them look stupid for the sake of a joke, and, for me, this episode didn't just cross this line, it happily ran right over it, repeatedly. And that pretty much ruined the entire episode for me to the point where I almost turned it off.
The only time that has ever happened before was Caged Heat, and I don't think even that ones was quite as bad.

Can we just have Samandriel back now pls?
Yes, please!

Date: 2012-11-30 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlehollyleaf.livejournal.com
Fair enough.

Here's to hoping Samandriel will be in Cas' next episode then!

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